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	* Date: 20.11.2024		* Date: 20.11.2024
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* Attendees: Tom, Louis, Jannis, Maddin, Fabio, Can, Henrik, Benny, Philipp, Leon, Niklas, Svea, Sina, Guests: Freddy, Lilly, Hauke, Jonas, Jens
* Quorum: 13/14 #t
* Transcript Writer: Louis
* Date: 20.11.2024
* Beginn: 19:05 (Nach hinten verschoben wegen Neu-Orga Treffen der OE)
* End: 20:14
* Location: G-134/Discord

= TOPs =
* Political messages on the Mafiasi Dashboard
* Political stance of the FSR
* Mark furniture for moving
* Past week
* Winter seminar planning
* BaStL-meeting
* Other

Postponed:
* AG fair
* FSR Informiert English version
* Drink prices
* Update: connecting with other STEM faculties
* Funding for AGs (stundent clubs)
* Spam in the Wiki
* Which emails are forwarded

= Political messages on the Mafiasi Dashboard =
* The Server AG wanted to add a small toast with political messages on the Mafiasi Dashboard; this pull request was stopped by Tom
* The FSR decided in the last meeting to avoid making political statements wherever possible
* Certain messages are particularly troubling to us
* Tom consulted the HoPo department: It is generally acceptable for the FSR to take political positions. However, they should focus on specific statements or actions rather than criticising parties or individuals
* The Server AG is okay with modifying individual messages.
* Freddy says that it is not sensible for the FSR to remain entirely apolitical, as this would prevent support for causes like TV-Stud
* Additionally the FSR Informatik has previously taken political action on several occasions
* Tom says that intrusive political messages don't belong on a neutral dashboard page; such decisions should be made in a general assembly of the faculty
* On the other hand, the toast was made to not be intentionally intrusive
* Lilly believes it is important to use available spaces to clearly show the faculty's values. Failing to oppose far-right positions essentially condones them
* Maddin says Mafiasi should not exclude anyone. Lilly responds that the messages do not exclude anyone from using Mafiasi
* Hauke says the faculty is inherently political and can take positions. However, such positions should represent the whole faculty, rather than being prominently displayed on Mafiasi by a few individuals
* Tom sees this as a misuse of Mafiasi, advocating that such issues should be decided in a general assembly
* Philipp notes that less popular views could also be promoted by individuals, suggesting community guidelines for this
* Lilly counters that, aside from the Wiki, Mafiasi does not have much user-generated content. Only confirmed members of the Server AG can post content outside the Wiki
* Freddy proposes discussing political values in a future general assembly to establish a faculty position. This decision could include how such positions are displayed
* Jonas argues Mafiasi should remain a neutral platform without political messages, suggesting these could go on subpages instead
* Freddy counters that, despite this, it would still make sense through a joint decision by the student council. Additionally, such an action loses its impact if it is not sufficiently visible.
* Tom suggests continuing the discussion in the general assembly.
* Freddy warns against appearing apolitical, as this may prevent support for meaningful actions
* Can emphasises the importance of a clear stance against far-right ideologies while keeping the dashboard neutral
* Freddy notes that a clear political alignment can make the FSR approachable for discrimination cases
* Sina adds that international students often don’t know they can contact the FSR with issues
* Philipp says that the last meeting's discussion might not have been fully conveyed in the brief notes.
* Lilly proposes a compromise: instead of freezing the issue until the next general assembly, a more neutral, less loaded statement could be displayed on the Mafiasi Dashboard, referring to the FSR and the university's anti-discrimination office
* Freddy supports this and suggests creating a working group to address discrimination issues among (international) students
* Lilly will prepare an implementation of her proposal and reach out again.
* We will continue discussing this next week.

= Political stance of the FSR =
* The FSR will criticise individual actions and positions rather than broadly opposing the BAE group.
* Freddy warns that any collaboration with BAE can be very risky.
* Several student councils were dominated by BAE for years, leading to blocked resources (finances, rooms) for affected faculties.
* Our FSR once had a BAE member who was unwilling to step down voluntarily.
* While not everything BAE does is bad, Freddy urges caution as they can create significant trouble.
* Tom suggests a "BAE History Lesson" to inform new FSR members about the group.
* It is also important to share this knowledge with the faculty.
* Hauke notes that BAE will be closer geographically after the move to the new Ikum building.
* Jonas proposes a formal incompatibility resolution to simplify rejecting BAE involvement.
* Freddy warns against direct conflict, as BAE employs exhausting tactics.
* Freddy reiterates that the issue is less about BAE's political stance and more about their extreme methods.
* General recommendation from Tom: Research BAE and read experiences to gain insight.
* We thank Freddy for his input and would be happy if he could join the history lesson.

= Marking furniture for the move =
* Tom provides an update on the move. The clearing date is late January, so furniture for disposal should be marked now
* Can points out that the FSR has been barely involved in the planning and suggests pushing for more involvement. Meetings have not included us so far.
* Tom has sent a relevant email today, hoping for inclusion in future planning meetings.
* There’s hope we might get rooms at the MIN Forum.
* Legally, the faculty is entitled to rooms, and two are insufficient.
* While aware of the room shortage, we must push for more.
* Jonas asks if there is a room concept for student AGs (e.g., Bit-Bots). It seems unlikely.

= Past week =
* Meeting time remains Wednesday at 18:00
* Ikum-LAN AG received €50 for snacks
* Drinks have been ordered
* Tom completed the FSR poster.
* A second mulled wine dispenser was approved; Tom will handle it.
* Tom is working on a new lock for G-134.
* FSR Informiert promotion via Community Announcements is in progress.
* Leon drafted rules for refrigerator use; we will vote on them in the group chat.
* Numerous emails were answered.
* An email detailing active AGs in the faculty has been drafted but has not yet been sent.
* Philipp added a new rule to the Wiki requiring new AGs to draft a short introduction for the Wiki.

= Winter seminar planning =
* Invitation drafted; RFC pending
* Drink and food options have been optimised
* Prices still need to be set
* The token system will be used again. Requiring cards that will cost €30-40.
** Approved unanimously.
* Helper email coming soon
* Karaoke-AG was contacted about organising karaoke
* A contact grill for sandwiches will be purchased (€30-40)
** Approved unanimously.

= BaStL-meeting =
* We aim to hold a BaStL meeting before Christmas
* Tom will create a bit-poll

= Other =
* Future emails will first go through an RFC with a planned send date to fsr-inter@
* FSR Informiert English version
* Promote the kitchen
* Jannis will arrange an advent calendar for the study office

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